Train Crash
2005.04.26 2:49

I am not surprised to hear the news. In the society where no mistake can be allowed, where punctuality matters prior to everything, where strict working standard and diciplinary behaviour are prior to everything.
Oftentimes, we have to deal with the serious matter by oneselves when we need more people to keep the system properly, where safety we have to keep is subject to being ignorant far behind the cost-effectiveness, basically we individual workers tend to have too much burden to keep systems work properly at the expense of our personal pleasure through a total dedication to our job, manytimes overworkingly.
As far as such ideas are dyed in the wool in this society, we cannot expect to free from all the fears. We have to make a society where some amount of malfunction can be allowed, ..which costs more than do nothing for it in a short term, but in the end, that'll cost more..
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Well, it's supposed to be that way.(Score:2)
by rfc1394 (155777) <Paul@paul-robinson.us> on 2005.04.26 15:36 (#12345527) (http://paul-robinson.us/ Last Journal: 2005.05.22 2:16)
I am not surprised to hear the news.You didn't identify which train crash. It's hard to know which one you're referring to. I had to look it up, it's a crash in Japan [cnn.com].
In the society where no mistake can be allowed, where punctuality matters prior to everything, where strict working standard and diciplinary behaviour are prior to everything.Japan has a whole lot of problems, but the first point I can agree with, at least with respect to operating very complicated public transport, we can't allow mistakes because people can get hurt or killed. As for your comments that we should allow for malfunction, we do allow for it. That's why there's usually safety systems on railroads to cover for mistakes.
Most rail systems have interlocks that prevent two trains from being in the same block; (a block is supposed to be the amount of track that a train at the speed limit for the previous block can cover). A block will have a green signal allowing entry. Once the train enters the block, the signal turns red. Once it has exited the previous block, its signal turns green. If a second train attempts to enter a block that is red, it is supposed to trip the red signal and cause the second train's brakes to activate, stopping the second train before it crashes into the one that's currently in the block. This accident sounds like something isn't right here.
Second to that, when people depend on public transportation to get them places on time, they expect the trains to run on time. This is why they are often computer controlled so as to have them operate on a fixed schedule and to adjust when a train is running behind. But they're not supposed to crash into each other, that means something is wrong.---- The lessons of history teach us - if they teach us anything - that nobody learns the lessons that history teaches us
Re:Well, it's supposed to be that way.(Score:1)
by mercedo (822671) on 2005.04.26 20:34 (#12346558) (http://slashdot.org/~mercedo/journal/109855 Last Journal: 2005.09.27 11:22)
I had to look it up, it's a crash in Japan.
Sorry for not mentioning. Right. That's the one.
we do allow for it. That's why there's usually safety systems on railroads to cover for mistakes.
Here lies our lethal problem. Apart from human error the driver mistakenly made, there had to be several apparatuses to prevent a derailment. In the case of highly reputable bullet train, ATS (automatic train stopper), which automatically have the train stop when it exceeds the speed limit and when it comes near to collision with a train ahead. And the rail itself has to be equipped by a derailment prevention apparatuse attached outside the rail in a curve. In the case of local commuter train as this time, no such preventative measures were equipped. I think these are the more fundamental problems ahead of direct causes of this tragedy.--Ancient Greek Philosophers -18c Enlightenment Thinkers -Slashdotters